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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2016, 20:26 
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Petraa76 wrote:
My opinion. Recruiting soldiers is an action, too. It is unfair that big powers there is no opportunity to save the king. Just because recruiting is instantaneous. Where have you seen that in real life you could someone instantly to hire?


It used to count, and made game-play really strange. Weird things would happen, or wouldn't happen that should have.

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 02 Aug 2016, 04:23 
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noblemaster wrote:
I will update the manual as follows. When orders are executed:

1. Static Orders such as recruiting, fortifications, diplomacy, messaging and population management are executed first before any sorted orders below are taking place.

2. Sorted Orders are executed using a round robin algorithm with the weakest nation in a game moving first. The strongest nation moves last. The following orders fall into this category: (a) movements, (b) attacks, (c) declaring war, (d) cancelling relations, (e) abandoning provinces and (f) disbanding troops. Everything else is in static orders.

Please note that the round robin algorithm for sorted orders only considers movements and attacks when switching to another nation. A nation will get all sorted orders executed until a movement/attack event is found after which the next nation can execute again until a movement/attack event is encountered for that nation.



Shouldnt declare war happen before attacks? Or is this blocking the king sniping, like declaring war and on the same turn and capture the king ?

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 02 Aug 2016, 06:00 
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Yes, they occur before attacks!

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 24 Aug 2016, 07:13 
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The looting of the city what type of action?

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 24 Aug 2016, 19:12 
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Looting (I assume you mean "Pillaging") falls into static orders! I'll update the manual.

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 19 Jun 2017, 05:38 
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Where can I see the updated manual?
In the last game I was faced with a situation where my country was less than my opponent, but his turn was first.
Noblemaster wrote in the game:
"It's based on Standings, that's how the move-order is determined, not number of provinces.

For more specifics, read the Guide! It shows which actions count/do not count towards move-order. See the Static vs. Non-Static actions part.".
I want to understand the principles of determining the priority of stroke.

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 19 Jun 2017, 10:53 
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It's the "Guide" in the game available from the home screen. If you are running the latest version of the game, it should all be there.

I you believe there is something different, would you mind creating a reproducible test-case, so I can fix as needed?

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 20 Jun 2017, 05:14 
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Actually, the manual says that the first player move the smallest country. And that's all. The other option is not there. But now I know that in the Annihilation it is not. Question. How?

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 20 Jun 2017, 11:44 
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Let me check & update the manual for the next update. "Smallest Nation" is somewhat ambiguous.

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2017, 01:09 
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A few words about the priority of the move. The same countries. The same number of points. The first goes to the country that lower in the rankings. But they are the same. Absolutely. I propose in such cases to implement the random order of determining the first move.
It will be fair.

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2017, 06:05 
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i just experienced such a situation (both players have the same ranking within the respective game) and again thought that the movements should then be acted out simultaneously.

if i am not mistaken, then we do have the option to play without penalty anyway. for such cases, it should also be done that way for handicap games.

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2017, 06:39 
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Not sure if random is the way to go? Besides revolts (+?) where province happiness is less than 50% (can be controlled by the player), only the human and AI inputs are random.

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2017, 07:39 
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Options. The first goes to the country with the best happiness. If happiness is the same, then the one who has more/less population. We have to decide which is preferable.

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2017, 17:25 
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If this happens on the 1. turn, happiness & population will most likely be exactly the same!

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 Post subject: Re: AoC IV Turn Priority
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2017, 04:18 
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Most likely, one of the players to buy soldiers. But in the case of full equality, then random selection.

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