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Author:  ImLagging [ 28 Jul 2009, 17:48 ]
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fodder wrote:
Chris, if I want to bounce ideas or ask you questions, do you prefer I post them here or send you email?

Thanks in advance.


You can always ask in the modding forum and the rest of us that make maps can help. :)


TravisII wrote:
noblemaster wrote:
My other plan for AO III is map clusters! Rather than having single maps, it will be possible to group them. E.g. a world map cluster will contain all the major continents Europe, Asia, Americas etc. Then additionally the full world map containing everything...


Yay I been wanting something like this!!



Your Antrim map would be perfect for this. :)

Author:  noblemaster [ 28 Jul 2009, 18:30 ]
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Please bounce ideas in the forum! Thanks.

Author:  ImLagging [ 29 Jul 2009, 04:17 ]
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So... where do we find the existing flags? I looked all over the AO files and couldn't find them. Do I have to take a screenshot of each and every empire flag? Or is there a separate image file for each icon that I can just copy?

Author:  TravisII [ 29 Jul 2009, 07:21 ]
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There is a file called aevumobscurum-conf.jar I searched my entire C drive for it and found some like RMaevumobscurum-conf.jar and RAaevumobscurum-conf.jar I think.

Author:  ImLagging [ 29 Jul 2009, 08:11 ]
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TravisII wrote:
There is a file called aevumobscurum-conf.jar I searched my entire C drive for it and found some like RMaevumobscurum-conf.jar and RAaevumobscurum-conf.jar I think. I couldn't find the one I needed though.


Thanks, I found them. The file I found is acutally called RMaevumobscurum-or2game-conf.jar. The file is located in the Java cache. I'm not sure where this is on Windows, but on Linux it was at:
Code:
/home/username/.java/deployment/cache/javaws/http/Dwww.aevumobscurum.com/P80/DMoriginal/DMwebstart/


I extracted all files like it was a regular zip file. Then, I just went into the new folder I created for the extracted files and went into conf, then image, then flag. All flags were in there.

I believe that if you go to Contol Panel, then open Java, on the tab that allows you to clear the cache, it should tell you where the cache is located.

Author:  noblemaster [ 29 Jul 2009, 09:03 ]
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Please make sure you send me the flags in 16x11 pixels & PNG format!!! :kg:

Author:  fodder [ 29 Jul 2009, 09:56 ]
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Thanks Travis and ImLagging. I found the RMaevumobscurum-or2game-conf.jar on MacOS. Now I need to see if the flags I want are in there. Hopefully this will save me time so I don't have to create them all by hand.
Again thanks for the info. :kg:

Author:  fodder [ 29 Jul 2009, 11:41 ]
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noblemaster wrote:
@fodder: email me the names, flags and colors of the empires (can reuse the ones from current AO). Make the flags 16x11px in PNG format.

Silly question but I want to confirm before I re-sized all the flags. You do mean Width x Height, correct?

Since I'm doing North America I looked for a map by that name on AO and did not find one. Is there a North American AO3 map for AO? I'm trying to determine the number of provinces on the map.

As well as any of the islands (Cuba, Puerto Rico, Virgin Isles, Bahamas, Navassa Island, etc. that might be on the map.

Also I need to know if any of the Central American countries are on the map.

I'm trying to determine if I need to include any of these nations and their flags to the map and scenarios. Thanks!

Author:  noblemaster [ 29 Jul 2009, 12:16 ]
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That's a good question! I don't recall a North America map? Maybe there is a map but it never became popular?

Yes, 16 pixels wide and 11 pixels for the height. Unless it is the Swiss flag, the flag will cover the whole width and whole height of the image! If you take the existing AO flags, just cut off the top and bottom part to get to 11 pixels. Make sure it is centered though.

Author:  noblemaster [ 29 Jul 2009, 12:20 ]
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Probably about 80-100 provinces in the end. Here is the current version (work in progress):
Image

Author:  noblemaster [ 29 Jul 2009, 12:38 ]
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Also, for the scenarios if you feel adventurous, make up a fantasy scenario if you like. Let's assume you are in an alternate universe with a different time line. E.g. for North America: what would have happened if the vikings colonized North America first?

Author:  fodder [ 29 Jul 2009, 14:09 ]
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Thanks for displaying the North American map. It looks good. It really helps me to visualize things. :D It looks like you added in mountain ranges. Did you mean this to be impassable fields or should they be treated like any other field?

The first flag I took from AO was 16x10. Is that fine or do I need to add a line to make it 16x11?

Yes, I do feel adventurous. :) This is one of the things I had in mind but wanted to bounce off you. The two special scenarios I have in mind are:
1) Europeans never settled in North American. It would be Native Americans at war based on Indian tribal regions of 1600AD.
2) The American Revolutionary War modified for AO3. Looking at the map, I see the American colonies would not look like the 13 states. What do you all think? Will this be a good special scenario for AO3?

Author:  ImLagging [ 29 Jul 2009, 14:48 ]
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The mountain ranges are impassable on the iPhone version.

You may also want to consider a scenario where the English, French, Dutch and Spanish are trying to gain control of North America. Then, add in the Native Americans into the mix and you have yourself a war! :D Anyone that has played Colonization will know what I'm talking about. :D

Author:  TravisII [ 29 Jul 2009, 15:42 ]
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Nice map. I'm sure you don't have Africa, South America, or Australia maps anywhere near done, but if you could show us the general areas that they span, it'd be much appreciated! Also a guesstimate on the provs they are going to have.

Author:  noblemaster [ 29 Jul 2009, 17:31 ]
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The flag has to be 16x11 pixels!!! 16x10 is no good.

The scenarios sound good. The more the merrier :partyyy:

Yes, mountain ranges are unpassable.

And yes, I'll upload the other maps tomorrow, so you guys can see how they look. I'm not done yet with all though.

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